the point is this is a story of the obama economy. a man running for president in 2008 making all of these grand promises. and then none of them occurring. >> jennifer, on medicare, on that g.m. plant where the decision was made to close even before barack obama became president, the fact-checkers really went at ryan's speech. is that good journalism? it is in my view. >> no, i think the industry of fact-checker needs to be rethought. first of all, they don't deal in facts. secondly, they don't check very well. they went off that -- >> they don't? what do you mean by that? they don't deal in facts? >> no, they don't. when you say something is true but it left a funny impression, when you say something is an inferen inference, but yes, technical at the -- technical at the's true, you're not dealing with jobs. they did a bad job that night. i would commend a front page story by the "washington post" rrcht reporter the next day after she got to talk to both sides, research the issue fairly. you had a much more balanced, much more accurat